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Tue, Nov. 25th, 2008, 10:59 pm
joylessroots: I Screwed Up Bigtime

I'm afraid to post in parenting101 because it's a mix of breastfeeders and formula feeders, and I'm afraid to get dragged up against the wall and shot... so...

I'll just ask here.

We feed our daughter Enfamil, and we decided this Sunday to try the comfort version, with the broken down proteins. Since then, she has developed a horrendous diaper rash, and that doesn't even begin to describe it. We looked at her in better lighting... not only is her skin RED, but her skin was RAW in certain areas. My MIL suspects it's the formula.

We've never had any problems with her diapers, never with her wipes (always the same ones)... we've exhausted all possibilities except the formula.

Has anyone else had this problem? Not necessarily even with this particular formula, but any, or after a switch? My MIL suspects it has something to do with being extra acidic (not necessarily the formula itself, since it's supposed to comfort the stomach, but once it's digested and therefore altered).

I don't know. I feel like utter and complete crap that I let this happen to my daughter. She's MISERABLE, and fusses a lot, she cries worse than I've ever heard when her diaper gets changed, and we can't even use the wipes now they sting so much. We have to use warm water and washclothes and this beeswax cream until the redness goes away.

It's awful. :(

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)

First and foremost, don't be so hard on yourself. You didn't know this would happen. You thought you were doing your daughter a favour!

Changing formulas can have a detrimental effect on babies, but it's not end of the world. My daughter ended up with disgusting diarrhoea because we ran out of our normal formula and the shop only had a cheap one. Erk.

The sort of inflammation your daughter is experiencing would probably be soothed by a zinc cream. If you start to see puss, take her to a doctor. If you're using wipes with alcohol in them, I'd switch to a hypo-allergenic version. Warm water and wash cloths are actually best, but they can be a pain to wash constantly.

Anyway, don't beat yourself up. I know it's distressing to see your baby so upset, but it's not your fault. :)

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 06:29 am (UTC)

only one s in pus bb!

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 04:18 am (UTC)

Aww, poor little thing. I've never heard of that formula before, what's in it? I wouldn't be at all surprised if she has an allergy to it. What are her poos like? I'm leaning towards lactose intolerance... Maybe make an appointment with your doctor?

Give her as much nappy free time as possible to help her bottom get some air for the rash and I assume the beeswax would be great to repel wee? If not I'd use vaseline or Papaw ointment and then completely ignore the BF nazis, because you ARE doing a great job! It's tough, this parenting thing, but you WILL get through this time. I promise. :)

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)

Oh also, my son got HORRIBLE constipation each time we had to change formula, and like the PP said, washclothes and warm water are a great choice anyway - chemical free! We went from spending a fortune on hypo-allergenic wipes for my son (who has extremely sensitive skin, amoungst other things!) to just using wash clothes.

And I also (sorry this is getting long) wanted to let you know that I spent months and months being really hard on myself and I still am now. I ended up developing PND because I carried around way too much guilt (I didn't bf so my son got reflux, allergies, skin problems, etcetc.. we had a horrible first 5-6 months!). You just need to remember you are giving your baby the most important things in life, a loving family, a roof over her head and a full tummy.

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 04:42 am (UTC)

This sounds like a yeast type rash. My son gets them all the time. It's probably not the formula, especially because it sounds like an isolated event. The best way to deal with this is NEVER use baby wipes on a broken, angry type of rash, it stings. Use a wet washcloth to clean baby's butt every time. Then, use either a monistat type of cream or an athlete's foot cream. Both are antifungal and I've had great success with both. If you have them where you live, Dollar Tree has both the yeast infection cream and the athlete's foot cream for a dollar. Wal Mart also has some decently priced ones. Finally, if it refuses to go away in 3 - 5 days, you should probably go to the pediatrician.

If you've ever had a yeast infection, think of how that feels and that your baby's whole behind feels that way. I'm sure it's uncomfortable and when my so has one, he is just a pain in the ass all around. Usually just a day of treatment makes a huge difference in temperament.

Also, if you don't get the answers you need here, don't be afraid to go over to p101 to ask about it. Everyone's always been really cool when I've had formula questions. The wank tends to ensue more when a pregnant mother is considering formula than with established formula feeders. I guess the boobnazis assume it's too late and move on to other targets. I've gotten good advice there.

Good luck and I hope your baby feels better!

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 04:53 am (UTC)

Ah, I just noticed that you said you recently switched formulas. Could be the formula. She may just need time to get used to it. My son is on Nutramigen and that's pre-digested and he's prone to those yeast rashes. No matter what you need to do with the formula, which I am of no help on, lol, definitely treat it as a yeast rash. I bet it will make a huge difference in how your little one feels.

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 06:28 am (UTC)

it's thrush in my opinion

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 11:52 am (UTC)

Poor little thing, hope she feels better soon
Please don't beat yourself up about it - you were only trying to do the best for your daughter. I can sympathise cause I think I caused my son tummy problems when I tried switching him to follow on milk, and the guilt is horrible. We can only ever do our best for our babies.

One other thing to suggest in addition to the other posts - it couldn't be teething could it? THe only time my son has ever had nappy rash was down to teething and it was horrible. you sound american so I don't know if you get the same brands over there as in England but for bad nappy rash then Metanium cream worked wonders for my son - its bloody marvellous. I know that sort of cream can be prescribed over here so it may be worth taking her to the doctors to get the right cream prescribed.

From what I've been told about switching formulas - it takes about a week for babys tummy to get used to the new formula. Does the formula company have a helpline? I called the one for my sons formula two or three times and they were really really good, and they did tell me that sometimes a baby just disagrees with a certain type of milk.

Hope your daughter is better soon

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)

My daughter had rash so bad that she even bled a little when we wiped her when she was IN the hospital. The nurse assured us that its okay, just her body working out the kinks from the stuff she was being fed before the formula. (she was on IV tube for a few days because she couldnt breathe through her nose) They gave us some desitin zinc oxide cream and said to use it.. well after trying and trying it wouldnt get better and I was checking to make sure she wasnt wet very often. I then heard that if you take baby powder or cornstarch, then put on the cream it would help dry out the area and treat at the same time.

My daughter also started on Emfamil in the hospital. Once I made it home with her, I had WIC and she had to switch to Similac. Even after a few weeks of that instead of the common problem of constipation, she had horrible poopy diapers and we have switched her to the soy product. She does fine with that and doesnt have any pooping or rash problems. At first she did have a hard time because of the switch, and was very squirmy when it came to diaper changes but after she started to heal from the rash I would just keep her dried off with nothing on her skin and she seemed to heal twice as fast.

I hope your little one feels better soon and dont worry you're not a bad mommy or anything! These things happen and all you can do is try your best to get it fixed :)

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)

I had to beg Wic to switch her to Enfamil, which they finally did after the doctor sent my WIC counsler lady a letter saying Similac was causing her diaper rash.

Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)

It could possibly be the formula change. Angel got diaper rash bad when I used Similac but not when I used Enfamil.

<3 You're not a terrible mom, her rash could be a type of yeast infection too(Angel got them a lot) and any adult yeast infection cream wiped on the rash will help clear it up quicker than diaper rash cream.

Good luck!

Thu, Nov. 27th, 2008 03:57 am (UTC)

First, as others have said, don't beat yourself up, this happens to all of us. Second, when you changed her formula did you do it all at once change or did you mix the two together? When changing formula you should try to do it a little bit everyday until you are completely onto the new formula. It can be the root to your problem. If you have any of her old formula in the house or can afford to buy some I would do this even at this point. It can help her tummy which will help with what is coming out the other end.

Last, since you don't really know what kind of a rash that she has I would stop using the beeswax cream. It doesn't allow for the skin to breath as well as a zinc cream. Try and let her go diaper free for a few min between diapers.
Our skin is very sensitive and with out warning it can no longer like certain products on it. Don't rule out that it could be the diapers or wipes.Companies change there products all the time without letting the consumer know as well. What about your laundry soap, has that changed at all? Could be a new hand cream or soap that someone else in the house is using.
If it doesn't clear up in 3 day, I would see a Dr.
I hope she gets better soon.